I went to a place with my brother today that we call THE JUNGLE. Weve been diggin there for years. It was a real old hardwood until about 6 years ago when it was logged Extensively. Now it is a lot of treetops and briars, but there is still good sang in there. Youve just got to work hard to find it. We ended up with 21 ounces after about 3 hours of crawling around through the brush.